A totally unbiased and level-headed editorial on Forge World’s new local currency feature, other resin makers, and the pay to win mentality.
Jstove here, and today I’m talking about that Forge World price hike everyone’s so excited about.
The Sky is Falling & It’s Made of Forge World Resin
First, let’s dispense some unpopular truths.
Forge World models aren’t pay-to-win, most of them suck in-game, and the ones that are good aren’t better models, they’re just easier to play models.
Forge World- Not So Competitive
Let’s get one thing straight here- Everyone that thinks Forge World models are unbalanced are the people who played against Forge World 10 years ago when a DREADNOUGHT HOPPING OUT OF A POD AND ASSAULTING ON TURN 1 WAS A BIG DEAL. That was craaaaaaazy, and they’re still butthurt about it.
This is a sweeping generalization but I’m sticking to it. The stuff you can do in 40k right now is so much wackier than anything Forge World puts on the table. You’d be insane to think you’re going up against a beater list in 90% of cases when your opponent puts resin on the table.
If I had to choose between fighting the best Forge world units in the game or fighting a Genestealer Cult ambush list, I’d play the Forge World cheese all day. Because nothing Forge World has on deck is is as good as infinite CPs or twenty Genestealers at your backdoor.
Forge World & the Relic Tax
The other big problem with Forge World models is that the absolute top picks- Leviathans, Fire Raptors, and the Chaos Decimator, are all in Space Marine or Chaos Marine flavors. For Chaos, this isn’t so bad because they were going to buy a wall of Cultists anyway, but in Imperial Soup, you end up paying detachment tax and faction tax for the models you really wanted.
Just because of the relic rule and the overall anemia of the Space Marine faction. Despite having more toys than anyone, the only thing you really want from power armor is Dark Angel plasma, Papa Smurf’s re-rolls, and Slamguinius and his Blood Angel scout house.
Knights are even worse. Compared to all the perks and costing of loyalists and double-weapon renegades, most Forge World Knights are just outclassed.
The only thing a Forge World model ever did that you really wanted was put a really cool gun that you didn’t have on something. Or put multiples of a cool gun on something you already had. In most cases, these cool gun models weren’t better because they were superior, they were better because consolidating all that firepower into one convenient this-end-towards-enemy package was easier to manage.
In most cases, all these snowflake weapon platforms don’t compare to the cheap plastic model that has one of the biggest pairs of shoes in 40k right now- The $75 two-model Knight Armiger box, and that beefy three damage Helverin Autocannon.
You’ve Got it All Wrong
So what’s really happening here? You’re crying about win-button models with broken win buttons that didn’t work in the first place. 99% of the stuff in your codex was dirtier. Say it with me now, Plastic Rules Everything Around Me.
You signed up to play the expensive toy game and then complained about it. But you can’t blame anyone because GW made the cheap toy game and you’re not playing it instead.
If you want to buy Forge World to compete in 40k, not only are you wrong for all the reasons above and should probably just be buying Knights instead, but you’re playing the big boy expensive toy game.
This isn’t some tired argument about how “blah blah luxury costs, you knew it was an expensive hobby cry-cry bull crap.”
It’s a fresh new argument about how Games Workshop made games that don’t actually cost that much, but you aren’t playing them.
First of all, Age of Sigmar plays out of the box. You never buy extra plasma guns, or troop transport vehicles. Plus there’s like 3 Forge World models in existence for that game. The true joy of Age of Sigmar is that when you dump all the models out of a box, that unit is DONE. And that works for literally every white box on the shelf at GW on the fantasy side of the store that you don’t look at.
But what if you don’t like AOS? Trick question. You’re already playing it. 7th edition was the last 40k rule set. 8th edition is just SIGMAR IN SPACE. They use the same core rule set. The only difference is that in 40k wounds don’t transfer between models and they still use Strength and Toughness. Don’t be surprised if 9th edition streamlines that out, by the way.
You also could have been playing Necromunda
Don’t want to ever buy terrain again? Literally, everything required to play Necromunda forever comes in the Necromunda box. Want to buy one of the new gangs? 40 dollars per box. You’re done. That’s all it requires. One box.
But what about all of Necromunda’s extra source books and slow rollout garbage? Well yes, admittedly, that’s awful. But You don’t need a Necromunda expansion book for every player at the table, you just need one copy for your playgroup… Guess what’s a lot worse than that?
Waiting a year and a half for a Space Wolf codex with the wrong warlord traits in it. Whoops.
Try the internet
- Gorkamorka
- Mordheim
- Necromunda 1.0 (Or as the kids call it, Shadow War Armageddon, the re-hash.)
All of these games are available online through dedicated fan sites and if you know one person that has an Ork army, you’ve got enough models for four people to play Gorkamorka.
You drank the kool-aid and you need to get out of GW’s cult and join a new religion. Blessed is the path of the righteous man.
Here’s the other thing that all your homies at Long War and Next Level Painting are screaming at you every day
CREATURE CASTER MFER, DO YOU BUY IT?
Do you want to have nice toys for a premium price?
I’ve got news for you, there are 3rd party manufacturers with GANGSTER sculpts that are BETTER QUALITY and have BETTER DESIGNS than your warped, broke goofy British resin. They already taxed your crappy tea 200 years ago and you threw it in the harbor, did you really think they had a monopoly on rubber molds and 3d printing as well? They don’t.
There are other players in this game, and a lot of their stuff is just better-looking and more fairly-priced.
Let me tell you something about Creature Caster– I own it, I use it, I put it in my mouth and suck the suckers off those tentacles, they’re delicious.
I can’t say I would never pass up on less than legitimate Forge World models.
But I can tell you right now, I would never sleep on Creature Caster. Their product is so good and comes out of the box so clean and so sweet that I would never consider buying a knockoff of their work. The genuine article from Creature Caster is so worth it, I’d always go back to the well for them.
Some of you are probably going to be crying, “Oh! But they’re not GW official models! How will I ever play them?”
Well, Jules has some words for you.
GW HASN’T RAN AN OFFICIAL TOURNAMENT IN TEN YEARS
ARE YOU NOT AN ADULT? CAN YOU NOT SPEND YOUR MONEY ON TOYS THAT YOU LIKE?
WHY YOU CHILLIN IN THE GW SHOP? YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN SUPPORTING YOUR LOCAL INDY SHOP!
YALL STANDIN’ AROUND WAITIN FOR 2019 TO BUY SISTERS OF BATTLE WHEN RAGING HEROES AND WARGAME EXCLUSIVE ALREADY MAKE THEM.
NOW TELL ME AGAIN WHY YOU MAD AT FORGE WORLD FOR JACKIN’ UP THEIR PRICES, I DOUBLE DOG DARE YOU.
