Should We Really Be This Upset Over Xenos?

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Xenos fans seem to be getting a little anxious lately, wondering when they’re next. Come find out one of our writers thoughts on the matter.

Alright Xenos fans, this one is for you!

I completely understand why Xenos players would be getting a little anxious, they’ve seen teasers for a while now but no releases, let alone a codex. And when was the last time they actually got model updates? It’s been years since the Orks, Tyranids, Necrons and Dark Eldar got updated models on the whole. Would you be happy if it was your army that sat there on your shelf with the exact same models for four years, with few and far between options to change it up a bit?

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This teaser from the September White Dwarf hinted that Hruds and Demiurgs could possibly be seeing the light of day, and maybe even Ambull. But that was over four months ago, and there hasn’t been any other teasers or speak of Xenos since then.

Even though I completely understand where Xenos players are coming from, with all this build up of “Year of the Xenos” and such, it’s January, not December 2018. Take a step back, breathe, and let that sink in for second.

Look I’m sorry the latest Custodes teaser was extremely convoluted with a space theme and many of you thought it meant Xenos was on the way.  I know I did. Heck I didn’t get it was going to be Custodes till Robbie B said, nah that’s Custodes, all they do is watch.

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8th edition came out just six months ago, and of course there wasn’t any Xenos for that. It was all based on Primaris and Death Guard. Games Workshop is listening to the community and what we want, but they can’t just drop everything at once to make everyone happy.

Honestly we know Marine just sell better, and GW is a business that, is in business to make money. So it sorta makes sense they triple dipped on a new type of Marine, and two marine factions to kick off the release of 8th Edition. Then went with what is arguably the most popular of the Xeno factions for their update to 8th: Eldar, and then Tyranids.

I mean look at what their stock is doing right?

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June 17th marks the one year mark that 8th edition was released, and it’s my prediction that we will see Xenos releases before then, with more to come. We’ve already seen rumors that T’au has a codex coming around the middle of March, Necrons at the end of March, Harlequins in May, and Orks in June. Now that’s a whole lot of Xenos in the next couple of months, but we’ll soon find out just how true that rumor is.

So are Xenos players going to finally get some love? I honestly think it’s going to be sooner rather than later, but if I had been waiting for all those years I’d be a little anxious as well.

What are your thoughts? Will Xenos start seeing new releases soon? Can we trust the rumors?

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I'm a huge fan of anything tabletop. I play strictly Chaos in Warhammer, and Imperial in anything Star Wars. I spent 8 years in the military. Now I'm happy to be a civilian working with a great group of people. "We are all tyrants. Do not fool yourself. We were bred for nothing else." -Mortarion

  • Gamecock13

    Jesus, someone educate the masses regarding the bias associated with “It sells best so we are going to focus on it” and the ensuing consumer response of “why wouldn’t I go with this army…they get all the things!”. Stop it with that played out argument. It is a cyclical argument.

    And yes we should be upset. “It has only been 6 months” and in that time I’ve watched my indexed dark eldar go from competitive (index vs. index) to being unplayable (index v. Codex).

    The argument that “we are only in January!” Doesn’t home either. Rolling over to a new year doesn’t change the bias demonstrated towards imperium and CSMs over the course of the 8th edition release. There isn’t even an attempt at creating a balanced approach to rollout.

    Yes we should be upset. I bought models I cannot use simply because we are so out-of-balance versus my gaming group’s codexed armies…rendering them useless for however more months.

  • ZeroTheHero

    People are way over reacting about this. No matter the order they did the codex’s people would be complaining and how they are doing it now is certainly an improvement over how they previously did it. I never thought i would hear people complain about a chaos release. i dont see alot of people bringing up that for some of the codexes it does actually make sense to release first like the space marine factions with primaris and death guard. The people concerned about balance were never gonna be happy unless all the codexs were going to be released on the same day but we at least saw an attempt to address it with codex approved thats certainly a step in the right direction.

    • Gamecock13

      Chapter approved was useless for balance. If you don’t see a blatant bias based in the models, lore, campaigns, and codexes released in the first 6 months, you aren’t looking. Factions’ SUB-factions receiving codexes before full-fledged factions. The CREATION of new imperium codexes over and above those we already knew we’re coming taking up a spot and pushing others back a month.

      “They were always going to be mad” way to disregard the proof. I’m glad someone seems to believe the rollout was done in a thoughtful manner.

      • ZeroTheHero

        “Chapter approved was useless for balance” nah i dont think so points changes, stratagems, traits, that are certainly not perfect but not useless. I really dont see the problem with gw having a bias gw is a miniature war gaming company not a news organization or an rts games company. Its silly from a business perspective to focus on all the factions equally.

        ” “They were always going to be mad” way to disregard the proof. I’m glad someone seems to believe the rollout was done in a thoughtful manner.”
        its not disregarding the proof its dismissing the people complaining. I really dont see a situation where people wont be complaining and if you think that you have a magic solution where everyone would be happy i would call bs.

        The hobby has been going right the right right direction for a while and i think 8ths release is the best if not one done the best compared to others rules aside. January isnt even half over it starts to seem like an kinda entitled when people complain not getting the releases in the right order. Keep in mind im not saying i dont see any issues with gw just that people are kinda over reacting a bit soon.

        • Gamecock13

          “I really dont see the problem with gw having a bias gw is a miniature war gaming company not a news organization or an rts games company. Its silly from a business perspective to focus on all the factions equally.”

          GW can do whatever they want as a for-profit, entertainment-based organization. It may, however, make sense for them to not marginalize complete sections of the consumer base.

          “I really dont see a situation where people wont be complaining and if you think that you have a magic solution where everyone would be happy i would call bs.”

          No is ever going to be completely happy. I think that’s the median I can meet you at. I work in a position where I have to adhere to this concept all the time. The difference is, I generally provide a rationale behind my approach to something. While “money” is most likely rationale for GW, they haven’t provided that as their reason…we all have just assumed it. So, it is their place to do whatever they want and it is my place as the displeased consumer to voice my displeasure. 100% chance that there is 0% change unless it is brought up. I (and many others) am bringing it up.

          Regarding “overreacting a bit soon”…based on what timeline? That is is January and we aren’t a month into the new calendar year? Or based on the almost 7 months of the 8th edition rollout? I don’t understand why people think the New Year should appease anyone? The rollout wasn’t based on the calendar year, and neither are my expectations.

          Regarding Chapter Approved:
          If the gauge of success was making an index army competitive against a codexed army, then it was a failure. A couple of units (in my case as a Dark Eldar player…a couple of character models) with changes to their points and a couple of stratagems doesn’t address the multitude of benefits having a fully fledged codex provides. Agree to disagree on this point.

          • ZeroTheHero

            “GW can do whatever they want as a for-profit, entertainment-based organization. It may, however, make sense for them to not marginalize complete sections of the consumer base.”

            k we agree on this.

            ” “Regarding “overreacting a bit soon”…based on what timeline? That is is January and we aren’t a month into the new calendar year? Or based on the almost 7 months of the 8th edition rollout? I don’t understand why people think the New Year should appease anyone? The rollout wasn’t based on the calendar year, and neither are my expectations.”

            Based on the but hurt people that were claiming 2018 was supposed to be year of the xenos and considering there are still 11 months left it could still be.

            “Regarding Chapter Approved:
            If the gauge of success was making an index army competitive against a codexed army, then it was a failure. A couple of units (in my case as a Dark Eldar player…a couple of character models) with changes to their points and a couple of stratagems doesn’t address the multitude of benefits having a fully fledged codex provides. Agree to disagree on this point.”

            i really dont think chapter approved was supposed to make the factions in it competitive rather give something to tie people over until their codex comes out and address some points issues. 8th is a big change in the rules and we cant exactly use our old codexs. People are just going to have to be patient.

  • ContingenC

    While I’m not agitated about Adeptus Custodes getting new shiny things, Chapter Approved is certainly turning out to be a snub for Necron and Tau players. Points changes and stratagems are supposed to bring index armies closer to in line with their codex counterparts. For Necron, the only points changes included in Chapter Approved were to Forge World units. We received two stratagems and a warlord trait, and not even a placeholder Chapter Tactics-style buff. Not great, but somewhat justifiable if we can expect the codex shortly. Chaos Demons weren’t complaining because their codex was next. Tau and Necron players held their tongues because their codex was just around the corner. That turned out not be the case, so there’s some pent up resentment.

    GW could have done three things better to reduce resentment:
    1) Don’t withhold balance changes from CA to sell the eventual codex. Honestly, we were going to buy the codex anyway.
    2) We didn’t expect parity (for that, probably a codex and a balance pass), but did expect at least rough parity. If every codex army gets multiple Chapter tactics Traits, give each index army at least one placeholder trait to use until the codex drops. “Enough to be competitive” is a good bar for the codex-less armies to reach.

    3) Provide a rough schedule for codex drops for two months out or longer. I bought CA as goodwill on the assumption that Necron codex would come out shortly after. CA is not particularly useful to me without a codex, since they refrained from a balance pass for Necrons. I feel cheated. I understand the marketing value of surprise releases like for Adeptus Custodes, but for ho-hum armies like Necron, demand is likely to be static regardless of whether we know next week or next month when the codex will drop. Letting people be strung along by unfounded speculation is poor expectation management.

    To elaborate on #3 a little more, imagine if when they announced the Chaos Demons codex, they had also provided a list of codexes throughout the end of February, but withheld the existence of the Adeptus Custodes codex until last weekend–many people would know when to expect their codex, the people not getting a codex would be disappointed either way, and the Adeptus Custodes fans receive a nice surprise. Expectations are where they should be.

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