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Ep. 459: 40K Culture – The Rise of Grimdark in Pop Media

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Haspil returns for the Astartes 2 trailer, an epic new Kickstarter, and we discuss the rise of Grimdark in mainstream culture.

Another Long War Two-Fer is HERE: Keep those hobby muscles strong with this week’s webcast and the latest exciting podcast of table-top wargaming awesomeness mostly centered around Warhammer 40k.

Show Summary:

We discuss the birth of grimdark setting and some of the biggest influences on the style, along with some fun topics to keep things interesting. Here are the key takeaways:

  1. (20:41) Warhammer 40K’s Popularity Growth
    • The Long War doubles tickets sell out again at Adepticon, with 144 teams and a waitlist, reflecting the massive growth of competitive 40K events.
  2. (33:38) Astartes 2 Trailer Breakdown
    • The hosts analyze the Astartes 2 trailer, praising its unique audio design—where viewers don’t hear the Space Marines’ comms—and how it enhances immersion.
  3. (42:06) The Concept of Grimdark vs. Noblebright
    • A philosophical discussion on how 40K’s grimdark tone contrasts with traditional heroic fantasy like Tolkien’s works.
  4. (49:05) What If 40K Never Existed?
    • Speculation on how alternative franchises (e.g., Battletech) might have filled the void if Warhammer 40K had never emerged.
  5. (53:30) Why Warhammer 40K Is Going Mainstream Now
    • The hosts attribute its rise to a “perfect storm”—nerd culture normalization (e.g., Stranger Things, Big Bang Theory), better accessibility, and cinematic storytelling in games and media.
  6. (57:23) Dawn of War Cutscenes & 40K’s Cinematic Appeal
    • The Dawn of War II cutscene remains one of the best Warhammer cinematic moments, showcasing the franchise’s storytelling potential.
  7. (1:04:24) The Challenge of Dark Storytelling Without Nihilism
    • Discussion on how franchises like Dune balance dark storytelling without being overly bleak, which could be a model for future 40K adaptations.

This episode blends lore deep dives with humor and community engagement, highlighting both the Grimdark history of 40k and the camaraderie of its fandom.

The Rise of Grimdark

 

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About the Author: Kenny Boucher

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About Kenny Boucher: Tabletop gaming since the late 1990s; Kenny joined the Spikey Bits team in 2011, communicating his vast knowledge in articles about how to paint miniatures and more.

Kenny Boucher is not just a name but a brand synonymous with top-tier miniature painting in the world of tabletop wargaming. As the creative force behind Next Level Painting, Kenny has earned his place as a respected authority in the hobby community.

Along with Rob, he co-founded and co-hosted the Long War Podcast, which has over 350 episodes. His unparalleled skills, innovative techniques, and engaging tutorials have made him a go-to resource for hobbyists looking to elevate their painting game.