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RUMORS: New Horus Heresy Weapon & Unit Rules

Horus-Heresy-primarh-rumors-rules-starter-set-forge-worldIt’s raining Horus Heresy rules rumors for the new edition as a list of all kinds of units and weapons rules is here!

Before we go any further, we want to say, take all of this with some salt. They seem extremely solid but they are rumors, so this means they could change or might not be 100% right. So, don’t get too worried just yet if you aren’t a fan. 

With that said, there are a lot of rumors we’ve seen before, so let’s check those out first then get into the new stuff.

Here’s the most up-to-date list of new Horus Heresy Rules & Product Leaks. Click on the gallery above to see new Horus Heresy models and rules rumors!

The First Horus Heresy Rumors We Saw

horus heresy walpaperThese come from Bolter and Chainsword, and they were leaked from a playtester on the new edition. Here’s a summary of what they had to say:

1.Heresy 2.0 this year
2.Plastic starter set to be released with it or after it.
3. A lot of plastic kits are coming/already been made
4. No more black books
5. Rules still old 7th Ed just cleaned up and someone new things added.
6. Dreads have wounds.
7. Big focus on heresy again to be in line with AoS/40k

So these are all the big supposed things happening and were spurred on by a comment by Anuj Malhotra, saying to hang in there and great things are coming.

Is 2.0 coming in 2022 now? We think yes and that it could very well be the Black Friday release this year! We went more in-depth into whether these could all be true and what supports the rumors here. The biggest thing to look at here is the rules, as that claim will be disputed in the next rumors.

Possible Horus Heresy Starter Set Box

Thanks to the following exclusive image submitted by a Spikey Bits reader from this summer, we now have more to go off and a better idea of everything in the set. If these are right, this could be a gigantic starter.

Hi Guys.
I did this on ppt it gives a better idea of what might be the content of the future box
Thank you for what you do for the hobby 

30k rumor (compressed)Also just to note, these are all going to be priced in plastic.

  • 40 Mark III Space Marines $200 ($50 for 10)
  • 10 Cataphractii Terminators $130 ($65 for 5)
  • Contemptor Dreadnought $60 (based on the existing kit)
  • Characters $50 (based on the Space Marine Characters pack)
  • Spartan $100 (drop from resin based on the Repulsor Executioner price)
  • Rulebook and other potential accessories (note the absence of any templates…)

Total MSRP: $540

Total Values: if it’s priced in box at $200: $340 / at $300: $240

Whatever the price comes out to be, even at $300 this could really have the value-packed in there. Especially if the price of the Spartan doesn’t drop as we would expect.

If they do price this at the $200 mark, it could really bring new players into the game, especially if the rules are coming updated along with it.

RUMORS: New Horus Heresy Weapon & Unit Rules

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There are a ton of new rules rumors from the Bolter and Chainsword , so we’ll try to break them into sections for you.

  • New “Disintegrator” rifles, pistols, and combi-weapons mostly available to Centurions and Seeker Sergeants
  • Rotor cannons are Assault now with Pinning and Shell Shock (1), apparently causing -1Ld to the subsequent Pinning check
  • Nemesis Bolter, 72″ Heavy 1, Sniper, maybe replacing sniper rifles for Legions
  • Thunder Hammers are now Sunder instead of concussive 

Chapter Specific Rules

  • Dark Angels Warlord trait previously leaked as allowing to select bonuses against certain factions lists “Dark Mechanicum” as one faction
  • Salamanders now also have -1S to incoming plasma, melta, and volkite. -1″ charge/run/sweep is gone, Morale bonus now attached to a legion specific Warlord Trait
  • Raven Guard split into Hawks/Talons/Falcons that confer different bonuses to different unit types
  • Iron Hands -1S to incoming shooting now applies to all non-vehicle units (including new MC dreadnoughts), all vehicles get 6+ It Will Not Die and Autosimulacra can increase that to 5+
  • Iron Hands specific reaction to overwatch at full BS twice with Gets Hot!
  • Iron Father’s get a machinator array instead of a servo arm, have Battle Smith (3+)
  • Space Wolves are getting a “Grey Hunter” unit

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Vehicle Rules 

  • Toxiferran Flamers are now just Poison and Rending instead of Tainted
  • Flamestorm cannons are no longer AP3 but have Torrent
  • Volkite Calivers are Heavy 3
  • The Kratos is a new heavy tank that has a turret battle cannon/melta cannon/volkite turret with 4 weapons across the turret and sponsons, mostly autocannons, heavy bolters, and volkite culverins

Terminator Rules

  • All terminators now have two wounds!
  • Cataphractii and Tartaros are split into different unit profiles

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Primarch Rules

  • Primarchs and Fortifications have their own Force Org slot
  • Primarchs can be taken 1 per primary detachment but count towards LoW points

Squad and Detachment rules

  • Allied detachments are larger
  • Destroyer Squads split into “Assault” and “Mortis” units
  • Despoiler Squads return and Scout Squads added to tactical and Recon Squads as troops choices
  • Termites are now universal DTs like rhinos for most things (oh boy)
  • Most vehicles are now squadrons, including Deredeo Talons, Sikarans, Whirlwinds (including Scorpius), all Sicaran variants, Predators (in up to 5), Cerberus, and Typhons
  • Proteus Land Raider has been split into “Carrier” and “Exploratory” variants (presumably just making a different unit entry for the exploratory web upgrade)

Weapon Changes

  • All weapons have been rebalanced to be viable
  • Weapon S can go above 10 but is capped at S10 for wounding but the “true” value is used for armor pen and ID.
  • Twin-linked is more or less being replaced with Gravis ala 40k (double shots)
  • Autocannons and variants now have Rending
  • Astartes Shotguns have concussive
  • Demo cannons are AP3 but have rules to increase them above S10 for ID and armor pen
  • Heavy Bolters are now Heavy 4
  • Combi-weapons are split into “Magna” and “Minor” types, and both halves of the weapon can be fired at once. “Magna” are melta, plasma, and disintegrator and are one-shot, all other variants are not one shot
  • Lascannons have Sunder
  • Gravis blast weapons just use 5″ blast instead of 3″ (again phasing out twin-linked)
  • Plasma are AP4 Breach (4+), essentially 4+ Rending
  • Lascutters now also have an 8″ S10 AP1 Armorbane shot as well as the melee attack
  • Speaking of melee, combat blades, chainswords, bayonets, and chain bayonets all have different profiles
  • Combat blades are base profile
  • Bayonets are +1S Two-Handed
  • Chainswords have Shred
  • Chain Bayonets are +1S Two-Handed Shred
  • New Charnable weapons, “Tabre and Stave”
  • Force stave and power lance have “Reach”, whatever that does
  • Power swords are AP3 Rending, Power Mauls are +2S AP3, Axes remain unchanged
  • Lightning Claws have Rending, and pairing them gives +2A instead of +1A

Either way, new rules and even just one new Horus Heresy starter box set at the bare minimum would be a great thing to see.  Here are all the latest rumors on the upcoming rules updates and new models for the Horus Heresy system.

Here’s the most up-to-date list of new Horus Heresy Rules & Product Leaks. Click on the gallery above to see new Horus Heresy models and rules rumors!

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